Thanks, 1041SP
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1041sp 
VA Math 
Lead  
Boy am I confused! Good news is that my 3and a half year appeal is half done. I went to my VSO office today and now I have real questions. Let me explain. I was 20% SC for Diabetes. I appealed for additional 20% diabetes (total of 40%) tinitus, hypertension and a few other things. Just got a letter with a partial conclusion of 10% tinitus, 10% neuropathy lft. leg, and 10% rt leg for a total award of 40%. The addition Diabetes and hypertension are still to be resolved. I have a CP exam next week. First question, will my retro pay be awarded for the 10+10+10=30 or will it be awarded for the difference between the new award of 40% the past 20% = 20% retro? The award goes back to 9/30/08 for all 3 new conditions. So you can see there is quite a difference between 20% retro and 30% retro! Ok let's move on. So here's the hypathetical, currently I am at 40% (20% of that remember was my original diabetes award). If I get the remaining 20% (for the diabetes for a total of 40%), 10% for hypertension, and 30% for PTSD ( a new claim recently filed) what would my total award % work out to? Here's the math 40%+20%+10%+30% = ???? So as you can see I am quite confused. Of course my VSO has a chart with the progression of totals ( is that chart avaliable on line anywhere) and she was hurried and couldn't explain all this to me. I was terrible in regular math in school but this VA math is mind boggling! Someone help me out here!
Thanks, 1041SP 





dohcsvt  #1  
go to this link
http://www.benefits.va.gov/warms/bookc.asp subpart A Paragraph 4.25 it will explain how to apply your separate disabilities. Essentially, you start out with a whole person, then if you have a 50% disability you are down to half a person. If you get 20% ontop of that, it does not come from the full person but the half thats left, so instead of being at 70% you would be at 60%. The more disabilities you have, the less they impact your overall rating. 



iamdanieltuck  #2  
http://vets.yuku.com/repl...Calculator#reply441101 Here is a calculator spreadsheet that will determine your combined rating for you, that as designed by Hutsky. Essentially the VA gives you a little bonus when both upper or both lower extremities are affected, like your left and right legs. That bonus is called bilateral, and bilaterals have to be calculated first. Once bilaterals are entered and calculated you enter your disabilities in a descending order, largest to smallest. As for the back pay, the amount will be the current award 40%, minus the amount you were already receiving. For example (using the no dependent amounts from the rate table { http://www.vba.va.gov/bln/21/Rates/comp01.htm } because I do not know if you have dependents) 20% is $251 per month and 40% is $560 per month, leaving a difference of $309, which you would multiply by the amount of months going back to the effective date (47 give or take a month) in the award letter. I get $14,523 owed. Ok, now hypothetically, if you were awarded these other contentions and they were retroactive back to the same date I would calculate it as follows. Your total combined rating would be 70% after those contentions were added. So you would calculate the difference between 40% and 70% which is $1,272  $560 which is a difference of $712 per month, multiplied by the 47 months since the effective date equals $33,464. I hope this information answered your questions. Also with all this hope and big money being calculated, I want to remind you not to count on the money until it is already paid. Nothing is official until its official. 



1041sp  #3  
iamdanieltuck,
Thanks so much for the info, I really appreciate it. Still need you to clear up one thing for me. In regards to the additional % for diabetes in calculating the total % award. Keeping in mind out of my current award of 40%, 20% of that is for the diabetes. So if I am awarded my goal of 40% total ( for restricted activity ), which way would the math go? Currently 40%+ 20% ( the remaining 20% from the original 20% diabetes ) or would it go like this, 40% current + 40% (total award for diabetes with restricted activity) etc! I was discussing this with my VSO the other day and she said it would be 40% (current) + a whole new 40% for the increased rating for the diabetes. I questioned her about it saying" I already have 20% wouldn't it just be another 20%, she said no it would be 40%+40%. Who thought up this VA math anyway. Again thats for you help. 1041sp 





cruiser  #4  
1041sp wrote:Your question is really confusing. Every time there is a change in any of your evaluations or new evaluations are added, the combined evaluation is recalculated from scratch from whatever date the change is effective. What came before that date is over and done with, if that makes any sense. Who thought up this VA math anyway.This term "VA math" is just something that is used in this forum and is really a misnomer. It isn't as much "VA math" as it is the industry standard for calculating disability evaluations. Just about every entity, whether it is an insurance company, Worker's Compensation, a court of law, or whatever, uses some variation of this method of calculating disability. It's called the "whole man theory" and like I said, it's used throughout the industry in some form or another. In fact VA probably has one of the most claimant favorable variations. For example, in some iterations of this method you might have two disabilities evaluated at 15 percent each, whereas under VA's version these would be 20 percent each since VA works in multiples of 10's rather than 1's or 5's. In another situation you might find a version that doesn't use a bilateral factor like VA does. Cruiser 



1041sp  #5  
Cruiser,
Thanks I understand each time there is a change there is a reevaluation but again my question is specifically regarding the diabetes being recalculated at 20% or 40%. Remember 20% of my current 40% is for the original diabetes award 3 years ago. So would they give the new award 20% because there is already 20% or since the new diabetes rate might be 40% (because I was able to add restricted activity) would they give me another 40% setting asside the fact that there was already 20% granted originally for the diabetes? Clear as mud I'm sure!! Thanks, 1041sp 



iamdanieltuck  #6  
Ok, if you are granted the increase of 20% for DM, then it will bring the rating for that contention to 40%
The 20% is gone, now your combined rating would be recalculated contention by contention. You don't just add on to an already combined rating. Each time a percentage is changed, the combined rating is recalculated from the simplest form, largest to smallest. If you want me to rework the combined rating or backpay, simply post the names of the contentions you think you will get, the effective date you think you will have and the current rating you have now. With that information I will go through and show you again, if I wasn't able to clear it up. 

