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jcolwell wrote:For the both of you, never mentioned AO............
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jcolwell wrote:OK, so where is the forum for Direct Exposure for herbicide in thailand.......was it deleted and I missed it . Oh , never mind, it was closed........my stupid error.
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willie wrote:I think the reason the Thailand vets don't have much to say is becouse they know that they did not make any kind of sacrafice during the Viet-Nam war. They were on R&R in Thailand. Made to feel like second class vets. Like some of the WWII vets did to vetrans of the war in Southeast Asia when they went to the VFW. I am a Thailand veteran. When I first found this web site I would only read what others had posted. I wanted no part of what was being said here about AO and Thailand. So I just flew under the radar and learned from others mistakes by challanging the site experts about Thailand. My claim was filed by a VSO that was a Viet veteran. Talked down to me about my service in Thailand while filling out my paper work for herbicide exposure (my request). I just let it roll off and went on about my life. About a year and a half later I got my award for CLL 100% PT and the paper work says award "for exposure to Agent Orange Thailand" I know the "experts" and like to jump on this and say that the VA is wrong that it does not matter what my letter says there was no AO in Thailand. I say to them and others my paper form the US Goverment says there was AO in Thailand and that if I would have payed attention to the experts I would not have filed a claim. Go back and read some of the threads from years ago. I took that award letter to the VSO that filed my claim and showed him what it said. He also got a ear full about trying to belittle my service. Unlike some folks here he looked at it and said he was wrong for not trying to help Thailand veterans. So the bottom line here boys is that if you served your tour of duty on R&R in Thailand getting shot at by AAA over the trail or putting fuel in the aircraft or what ever file your claim for herbicide exposure not AO. Who cares what mix of weed killer it was (they don't know).Take what some here say as bs. This is not the only web page that you can learn form. I don't stop in here very often these days as I have more important issues and am enjoying what time I have left. Living life like I stole it. Welcome Home Thailand Vetran you had a tuff job and did it well.
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LouF wrote:It is semantics guys, we all know that AO was used in the perimeters but the DOD says herbicides, we also know that AO is the only recognized herbicide to cause these diseases that they are compensating for. It is also political, Thailand is a strong allie and we probably don't want to piss them off or we may have to pay a boatload of Thai claims. ROK is different though since the Koreans sprayed the stuff that we gave to them.
I guess as far as claims, you use herbicide but in here we know what you are talking about. Most guys in Thailand can't prove direct exposure to any herbicide let alone AO. The presumptive exposure are for military police who walkd the perimeter, every thing else must proven direct exposure which is a tough nut to crack
Yes Lou I agree there is a lot of information that is being purposely
held back about the true type of ingredient (if you will) in the herbicides that
were used on the base perimeters for that exact reason.
IMHO, the naming of commercial herbicides was an acceptable name
given to soften and hide the real facts. It is a wonder no one questions why
only in Thailand that the use of so-call commercial herbicides could only be used
upon receiving the approval from the Thailand American ambassador to the 7th
Air Force deputy Commander that was headquartered there.
Many Thailand Air Force Vets also served a tour Vietnam and
then went on to Thailand and conversely, as such many have placed AO claims
based on their Vietnam assignment; In
addition, many that were en-route to Thailand transited through Tan Son Nhut air base in
the 65/66/early 67 time frame, when it was still not officially announced that
the United States had military personnel In Thailand; even the American flag
was not allowed to be displayed on the bases prior to the announcement.
I have heard the common statement of Thailand being an R&R
location, therefore any veterans from there were viewed as second class; the
fact that it was the city of Bangkok that was used for R&R, no one went
upcountry for R&R where I personally know for a fact that conditions were worse
than some assignment locations in Vietnam, just ask the Marine and Army
personnel assigned to Nam Phong Royal Thai air base.
I am grateful for the VBN sticky assignment of the Thailand
ERA post in support of the site’s mission to help fellow vets. I see that it
has had over 6000 + viewings. I feel it has helped many Thailand vets with the knowledge
on the proper claim process, thank you again VBN!
I am hoping that someday everyone inside these bases will also
be allowed to place a claim.
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