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stinkfoot	COGNITIVE PROCESSING THERAPY HELP		Lead	[-]
Posts: 2 Mar 13 12 6:08 PM	Tags : None Hello there new guy here what a good place for information I have a question, I have been keeping appointments with my counseler at the V.A. for about a year know, I have been taking my meds ( thank goodness for them) , the counseler wants me to go to Cognitive Processing Therapy , I filled a claim for PTSD last March ,anybody know what it is and what are the odds of it fixing the crap that goes on in my life (anxiety ,depression, sleep problems) amongst others. thanks
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redfish		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1427 Mar 13 12 6:29 PM	It's group therapy and it's a good thing. Little anxiety at first but you will likely enjoy it and learn why you do the things you do. If like me, you may appreciate finding out that other vets feel the same type of things and have the same kind of issues that you do. It does not "fix" you. It helps you understand why you do the things you do so that you can be aware of it and handle them better. Coping skills 101
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jpapa		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1954 Mar 14 12 12:27 AM	Welcome to VBN and thanks for your service.. MH programs are great tools and learning new techniques on how handle things,IMO...and if you don't get it the first time ask for it again until you get it...Its a good idea to visit a Vet Center for an individual and groups counseling, you could use those you learned from MH... Honor Bound To Defend Freedom! Retired USN 70% PTSD/ 90% SC, 100% TDIU SSDI
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nmfxstc		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 25223 Mar 14 12 12:38 AM	It's VOODOO! Chicken bones and owl feathers and incense and stuff! Seriously, it is a group therapy effort....and a good thing (as most groups are, but I always include a one on one every couple of months. Fillean meal ar an meallaire.
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johncrms	How effective is group therapy?	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9 Mar 14 12 1:25 AM	My counsellor at the vet center has been trying to get me to go for awhile now but...well I guess I am not ready yet. I imagine a bunch of vets sitting a circle and telling war stories, to be honest I just want to forget, and sometimes I really think I don't want to get better...just for it to end. If It wasn't for my dog who needs me...lol But can anyone give me an idea what it is like? It is hard for me to talk about stuff without becoming emotional, a lot of things I buried an repressed, and then there is the sense of guilt. Thank you,
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ks1k		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3694 Mar 14 12 5:45 AM	Here is what the VA has to say about Cognitive Processing Therapy. http://www.ptsd.va.gov/public/pages/cognitive_processing_therapy.asp Wiki says " CPT can be provided individual and group treatment formats. " In my case, I attended twelve one-on-one sessions for pain management with a psychiatrist in what was called Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.It was during these sessions that I was diagnosed with PTSD. Many of the things that we worked on during these twelve sessions have proven useful in both pain management and PTSD management. Not all of them worked for me, but some work rather well. It is just like the medications -- what works for one person does not necessarily work for others. Give it a try. Dave sends USAFSS 1957-1979
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redfish		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1427 Mar 14 12 6:27 AM	johncrms wrote: My counsellor at the vet center has been trying to get me to go for awhile now but...well I guess I am not ready yet. I imagine a bunch of vets sitting a circle and telling war stories, to be honest I just want to forget, and sometimes I really think I don't want to get better...just for it to end. If It wasn't for my dog who needs me...lol But can anyone give me an idea what it is like? It is hard for me to talk about stuff without becoming emotional, a lot of things I buried an repressed, and then there is the sense of guilt. Thank you, That's just it John. We almost all feel like that. That's part of the beauty of group.You get to see that other vets act and do things like you do. I found it relieving. No war stories and all that mess. Share day to day events and see how you reacted and learn why you reacted like that so you can be aware of it in the future and not follow the same path in the future. It's basically coping skills 101. CPT - Cognitive Processing Therapy which is thought processing therapy. You learn to process your thoughts and beliefs into true or false or fact or fiction, exagerrated or accurate, etc....You learn about stuck points and things that are triggers for you. You learn why certain things make you act the way you do and how to recognize that and how to handle it. Group allows feedback from the others and shared experiences in your life today. You learn from them and they learn from you. In my opinion one should never turn down an opportunity to get better. After you have been through it then you can decide if it was helpful but not liking it or not wanting to do it is in my mind a symptom of PTSD. I am guilty of not liking anything.
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stinkfoot		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2 Mar 14 12 5:24 PM	nmfxstc I will be bringing my bloody chicken foot for Mojo protection, and some battle rattle also , just kidding, thanks for the info.
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Patrick428		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5222 Mar 14 12 7:48 PM Go Tar Heels! Closet Vols Fan	Instead of Exposure Therapy, CPT allows you to digest and rationalize your behaviors pertaining to PTSD. It is suppose to help you manage your thought processes better and in many cases does. However, regardless of the intervention, PTSD is a memory-based disorder. Unless someone finds a way to erase memories, it will always be problematic. Patrick U.S. Marine Corps, Vietnam 1965-66 and 1966-67, Honorable Discharge,1969, E-5 Two Purple Hearts, Bronze Star w/Combat Device, Combat Action Ribbon, Presidential Unit Citation, Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry w/palm Ph.D. Clinical Psychology (retired) Specializing in PTSD and Forensics Former C and P and Social Security Examiner 100% P and T plus SMC-S Housebound "If you're going to throw beer cans on stage, you could at least make sure they're full" Grace Slick, Jefferson Airplane
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tinman1	CPT (individual)	#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 40 Mar 18 12 6:04 PM	Redfish and Patrick offer fair evaluations of CPT. I would not like GROUP CPT as CPT is deeply personal and individual and needs to cover much ground. Next Wednesday I will have my 11th (of 12 and perhaps a few extended sessions) individual "lesson" of CPT. The VA psychologist recommended that I take these classes at the Vet Center and recommended me. I had already attended the PTSD 101 program, driving over 300 mile to get there and back, and Cognitive BEHAVIORAL Therapy classes (group) at the local Vet Center (only 200 miles invested there each week). CPT and CBT are often interchanged wrongly. So, educate yourself. My motivation is that I do not wish to be angry and harmful for the last 15 years of my life as I have been for the previous 40 years. And I don't wish to carry these buried, and now not so buried, memories and nightmares with me every phucking day. I now feel the memories have handles and I may be able to control them better. It is tough work. Some weeks I avoid doing the homework by thinking, reviewing, wondering if I am ready to proceed. The counselor (another Vietnam Vet) seems to understand this. You will always be in command of the program. It will not always be comfortable. I am proud of the new "tools" I have in my possession and look forward to better times. Some stuff seems "truer" than other stuff. Angle Fire helped my wife (3rd) to understand what is going on and some of the ceremonies made me feel better. There is no magic, and certainly not joy, in re-visiting any of this.... You must what to change! On Wednesday afternoons, I also attend a Vietnam Group session for an hour. If war stories are offered, I have to fight with myself not to get up and leave. Our memories are not always our friends. Years ago, while attending a religious retreat, a Vietnamese minister began his talk. I had to get up and leave and walked around outside trying to understand how the singsong delivery still upset me. My reaction surprised me, for what could be safer than a church, I asked myself 20 years ago. I would like to have control over such silliness. CPT will help with this and other not-so-healthy reactions to your memories. Appreciate that none of this changes overnight. Good luck brother. It takes courage to attack your demons, to patrol in the dark. Oh, and I have learned of a safer place than a church: Your local Vet Center and this forum. Andy
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