There seemed to be a consensus for getting a poll for this, so here it is!!
Me first,
january 2003 went on T3 Profile and September 2003 changed to P3 Profile. November 20 notified of Informal results.
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dally7777 |
PEB Timeframe Estimates |
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Please enter the timeframe it took to go from notified of Permanent Profile Change to receiving the PEB Informal Results.
There seemed to be a consensus for getting a poll for this, so here it is!! Me first, january 2003 went on T3 Profile and September 2003 changed to P3 Profile. November 20 notified of Informal results. "Evil can only Rule in places where good men stand idly by while innocence is destroyed!"
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DCSoldier |
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But the process seems to going quickly as the NARSUM was waiting for me at PEBLO. Had to do the physical, and am not waiting for the PEBLO Doctor to review everything, as I don't agree with one part, and want a ortho consult...60 days for a informal PEB result? I hope it's that quick for me...
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XStatic1 |
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My husband just went through an MEB/PEB. He's an infantry soldier with 16 years of service. All of the documentation from the Dr.'s states that he was not deployable due to sleep apnea and the need for electricity for his CPAP machine. They found him fit for duty. I am just in total shock. I thought at the minimum that they would reclassify him to another MOS. We don't know whether or not to concur or nonconcur or what we should do.
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dally7777 |
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XStatic1,
Welcome to the VBN and I would ask you post a separate Thread in this forum so that others can see your request for assistance. In the meantime I'll start with my own advice. Where exactly did they state your husband was "Fit for Duty"? Was it at the MMRB, MEB, or PEB? I ask because if it was the PEB and they found your husband fit for duty, they did him an invaluable favor. Normally, as you stated, the highest rating DOD will give for Sleep Apnea is 0%. Now once separated, the VA gives a Rating of 50% if the use of a CPAP is prescribed. DOD Policy # 7 https://www.hrc.army.mil/site/active/TAGD/Pda/policy_refs.htm I stated above that the board gave a favor, my explanation of that statement is that you did NOT state your husband applied for COAD on the MEB Form. What COAD means is Continuation on Active Duty and is only authorized for those who have over 15 Years. That way you can stay Active until your 20 Year retirement. Now if the PEB came back with fit for duty, that doesn't mean the profile disappears. Whatever Restrictions are stated on his Permanent Profile that designated a 3 in his PULHES and is signed by the Hospital Commander, is now Permanent. For example, if in his profile it stated NO 24 Hour Duty, Must Sleep with CPAP nightly requiring Electricity. Then for his last 4 years he will never pull 24 Hour Duty and although he can be Deployed to Iraq, he must have power to plug in his CPAP. This would probably mean he would be working in the Headquarters in some aspect, but that is completely up to his Chain of Command. If separation is what he was looking for, unfortunately the PEB did not follow the Regulations. As I stated they made a mistake. If retention was what he wanted, then the PEB has allowed him to do that. If this is what you two want, he needs to sign Concur and finish his last 4 years. I just want to make clear that he would only receive Severance Pay which must be paid back to the VA before actually receiving any money from them. So that is my advice. And it comes from someone who also has Sleep Apnea, was rated 0% by the PEB, and has a rating of 50% from the VA for Sleep Apnea. Dally
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462 |
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I went through the same thing. If I were him I would stay in and collect my retirement!!! They cannot deploy him!! I would like to see a medical doctor place his sigiture on this one or a commander. If you send a broke military member to a commander in the field he will go off, then send him back home with a nasty gram. You will not find one. If he has 15 year plus they cannot to touch him because his retirement is already paid for!! They will put him on a desk job. If he has problems still waking up and he is having problems with his CPAP machine they will place him on a 4 hour day profile by a doctor if requested!!! They cannot say no because they have returned him to duty. They will review his case ever 18 months. So they have to except his disablilies. This is a commander nightmare because he is taking up one of his deploment slots !!! GOD BLESS
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dally7777 |
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welcome to the vbn!
I am quite suprised at this comment" If he has 15 year plus they cannot to touch him because his retirement is already paid for!! What are you referring to and what regulation covers this. That would be outstanding for hundreds that I know of that were separated between 15 and 19 1/2 years. As soon as you show me where that statement is I am quite sure a lot of people will be filing Application for correction of military records! Standing by...... |
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462 |
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I am saying the military has to retire him or return him to duty. Everyone in the military at the 15 year point the military have paid for your retirement. I will have to go through all my papers to find this becuase I made a copy of the regulation that they use in the hospital. They will not show this to you. I just so happen to ran across it. They I copied it.
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brokegijoe |
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462
updated from original post: 462 you wrote somewhere else about someone being retired with 0%. Quote: Please stop using the word retirement when it doesn't apply! You are confusing others with your wording! 0% - 20% is called "Severance". 30% or better is called "Retirement". This applies to the PDES (Physical Disability Evaluation System). Broke I would really like to see this document! I believe you interpreted some part of the regulation wrong. The only other conclusion I can come to is that by saying retirement you actually separate / retire through the PDES. This may actually exist somewhere and hey if it does then great but you want to know what destroys the whole thing? It all depends on Command! I really hate discourage someone from providing information but please start providing proof with items of this magnitude! P.S. Dally could you please erase all of our comments if proof isn't provided so innocents don't get hurt! We had a similiar situation in our Med Hold that hurt a lot of soldiers! Thanks! Broke |
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slavionics21a3(d) |
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Anybody know where wiredog3 is? I'm going through a MEB/PEB for my back and I was wondering what king of spinal fusions are out there.
I'm 13 YTIS USAF, with a lumbar fusion from L3-S1. I also need some work on my cervical C5-6,7 for HNP with radicular pain in left arm. I'd like to hear how the board(s) compensate something like this. And of course how the VA will look at this stuff. My ROM for lumbar was 20 degrees, and my cervical was limited down and to the left (not JFK). I'm on opiates, nsaids, relaxers, and etc for pain, stiffness, etc. Do I get to submit a letter to the IPEB, along with my family's letter? Or does my CC get the only letter to go with the package? Are MEB rebuttal letters looked upon favorably, or discounted due to lack of medical officialiality? My choice of endgame would be 30% or higher retirement; Any comments/answers appreciated. Links to other boards or info also appreciated. THX, sla.... |
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wrenchturner |
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Best of luck slavionics. I've walked in your shoes. 12 years and boarded wit h a 40% rating from AF/ 40% from VA. 18months later AF says you're stable and now 20%.....you get nothing but severance pay which is an advance of your VA check.
To those that think the military won't deploy you when you're disabled....LOL. You gotta be kidding. I herniated a disc in my back in April 2001 that caused a massive muscle spasms to stick out of my back 1" from the surface. Massive and hurt like heck. They gave me muscle relaxants and anti-inflammatories. 2 weeks later got orders to deploy to the desert...Doc said "you walked in here...you can walk over there too"...medically cleared and given a 90 day supply of meds. Needless to say I got worse over there. They waivered me into a TDY for a different MOS/AFSC and my job over there was changing tires. Throwing around all terrain tires and tractor trailor tires with a back injury was a blast. I was late for work every day because of Flexiril. Good stuff. There was only a med clinic over there that didn't even have anyone that could read an X-ray and I got sent back by my Commanding Officer early. Eventually the herniation popped and blew apart...couldn't get pain meds so they sent me to a pain specialist that did High Frequency Ablation and severed the nerves from my spine...had every injection a back injury could get and was on every med they could prescribe...Vioxx and Bextra were my personal favorites. Almost killed me. There is a waiver for everything in the military. They can deploy anyone they want wherever they want. |
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Skiller67 |
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Does anyone what the latest timeframe on the PEB process start to finish?
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wrenchturner |
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Yes.
While on Active Duty you will be medically boarded and discharged in 60 days. 18 months later you will be sent to a fake medical board. A few months later they will find you rated at 20% or lower no matter what to get you out of their system. If you appeal you will report within 40 days to a formal board. You will be torn down and ripped apart and permanently separated immediately following and will have the right to appeal to the Sec Defense. Best of luck with that. |
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Skiller67 |
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Wrenchturner, you make it sound like so much fun!!! But thanks for the information... Sixty days huh? Good thing I have put other plans in motion......
Thanks Again..... |
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Dukie |
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Anyone have current wait time for the AF? My package has been at Randolph for 3 weeks now. Just wondering when to expect an answer.
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drt773 |
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I'm an activated AF reservist. My MEB was done in Nov and I didn't aggree and did a letter of exception. It was sent to AFPC for the PEB. Got the findings yesterday. 50% medically retired. No retirement date as of yet and was told it could take "a while" as they are backed up on processing claims. Of course I concurred with that finding.
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Dukie |
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So from the time your package left for the PEB, until you got an answer was how long?
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drt773 |
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I got my retirement orders today. They are for 7 Apr. So things just happened pretty quick here at the end. I guess abt 90 days total time.
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chris2000Formula |
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My package was sent out to the IPEB originally on 11 June. It was kicked back for an error and resubmitted on 27 June. The board results were final on 31 July and it took a week before they made it to me. I was returned to duty.
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profile changed from P2 to P3 20 July. MEB results faxed to IPEB on 18 Sep. Received results 26 Sept. Found unfit and separation w/ severance pay recommended.
It would have been faster but the doctor who dictated my case had to redo it twice and he also left for a week or so for testing.
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watson59405 |
broke back | #19 | ||
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mine was sent to AFPC on 18 December 2007, I was told 4-6 weeks I should hear some thing. Is this still the norm?
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Mine was sent on Dec 6th. I am curious also, and wondered if any one had an idea if the time will slow down for the hollidays.
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