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nmfxstc	Re: New Combat Award "Combat Action Badge"	#21	[url]	[-]
Posts: 25223 Oct 7 05 9:12 AM	Pretty much the same with the EFMB...but...well, "ya had to be there" (Jimmy Buffet) If you don't get the point; It's because you never walked it!
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condo11LIB	Re: New Combat Award "Combat Action Badge"	#22	[url]	[-]
VBNer Posts: 364 Oct 7 05 11:37 AM	It doesn't matter to me what you have to do to get an EIB or a Ranger tab. It is NOT in league with CIB CAR CMB. condo
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patches011(d)	EIB	#23	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5 Oct 7 05 12:16 PM	With an EIB you can fail and take the test again, A CIB many have gotten with their lives. I think there is a big difference but that is an opinion from a non-infantryman but took many into the heat of battle, I only saw them get theirs the hard way. You can walk away from a test but many did not from a battle.
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NamDAV	Medals & Badges...	#24	[url]	[-]
Posts: 268 Oct 7 05 2:06 PM	With the Medals and Badges we have and a Token can get you on the subway.... Don't mean nuthin'.....
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11bspec4	Re: Medals & Badges...	#25	[url]	[-]
Posts: 71 Oct 7 05 2:42 PM	Test and namvet: The CIB for facing an armed hostile force as a combatant means less than a placement in a physical exercise? "It don't mean nuthin?" Shame on both of you for your horrific ignorance and disrespect. 11bspec4
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condo11LIB	Re: Medals & Badges...	#26	[url]	[-]
VBNer Posts: 364 Oct 7 05 5:21 PM	Nam DAV, It'll mean something for those who get caught in THE REVIEW. condo
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RCGglobal	Re: Medals & Badges...	#27	[url]	[-]
VBNer Posts: 226 Oct 8 05 11:30 PM	CIB vs EIB; CMB vs EFMB ??? Combat experience vs test performance. Both can and should be recognized for what they are. My personal opinion is that there should be some sort of DOD/DHS wide standard for recognizing personal service in combat on land, sea and in the air. Guess that would be too logical to expect. Aloha, Ray
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Testvet	Re: Medals & Badges...	#28	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1973 Oct 9 05 9:34 AM	you want logic in an illogical place? They all contribute to the same war, if by water , land or air, they are all exposed to hazards, believe me I was mad at Fort Stewart after GW1 and I walked into Personnel G1 and everyone was wearing CIB's and I asked to talk to the SGM, I asked him why, his reply was they were entitled because they were assigned to an Infantry Division duriing war, I pointed out you had to be 11B, 11C etc to be authorized the CIB he made some smart azz comment about mine with the star in it, I told him I was 11B and I was in 2 different war zones I could either wear the 2nd Div patch or the 24th ID on my right shoulder, or I could choose to wear my EIB whichever I chose. Long story short the Division CSM had to make them take the CIB's off, as they weren't entitled. The service's have been to long in making a combat award for non infantry MOS's infantry are not the only ones to get shot at in war, or shoot back, all I am saying is it's about time.
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wounded12sept83	Re: Medals & Badges...	#29	[url]	[-]
Posts: 23 Sep 3 06 5:57 PM	we got the car from president reagon i got my purple heart in beirut lebanon 12sep83 and went back in was a major role in dig,tag, and bagging of our fellow Marines 11 army 8 navy personel who were kia in the bombing of barracks 23oct83 yet nobody got the so called medal for duties beyond expectations why becaouse we are Marines and its nothing like what the crap there handing out now mofh to anybody and all who they see fit its crap and im pissed some of the new awards even skip over the dates of feb82 to nov83 check it out im confused and 100 % PTSD with 5 other listded combat related disabilities
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BROVET	Re: New Combat Award "Combat Action Badge"	#30	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3517 Sep 7 06 7:26 AM	Man, a lot of raw nerves being poked here. If someone hasn't been in combat, no amount of conversation is going to convince someone who has not what it is like. They won't understand. Eventhough a CIB is awarded to an Infantryman for being taken under fire, I don't think that is the significance of it. I think it represents more the memory of the fight, the blood shed by our comrades, the fear that is overcome to keep on operating when you would prefer to stay low out of danger. It is a whole bunch of things that folks who haven't been there just don't understand. (that is not to put the CIB higher or lower that any other badge/ribbon). Further, I don't know about all who wear the CIB but most did not just get into a single fire fight or just happened to be shot at but went looking for the fire fights/Battles (pleural) and saw their buddies shot and blown up, shed their own blood and killed the enemy (and revisited those dead or wounded buddies and dead enemy daily since then). It is a little more than some folks have made it out to be on this thread. Sorry for the rambling but this got my blood boiling. CIB and PH John
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herdgrunt	Re: New Combat Award "Combat Action Badge"	#31	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5817 Sep 7 06 8:27 AM	John, good post. The key words to me in your post are "firefights/battles (plural)." That sums it up and makes the CIB unique to all the grunts that for and earned it. As long as the CIB stays with the Infantry, I have no problem with the "Combat Action Badge" for all others that meet the criteria. They deserve recognition too!
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jdave	Re: Medals & Badges...	#32	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6596 Sep 7 06 9:14 AM	Testvet, As I read the regs, you are not authorized a star on a CIB unless you've earned the badge in more than one of the conflicts noted in the reg, i.e WW II, Korea, and Vietnam: "d. Subsequent awards. (1) To date, a separate award of the CIB has been authorized for qualified soldiers in any of three conflicts: World War II (7 December 1941 to 3 September 1945), the Korean Conflict (27 June 1950 to 27 July 1953), and the Vietnam Conflict. Service in the Republic of Vietnam conflict (after 1 March 1961) combined with qualifying service in Laos (19 April 1961 to 6 October 1962), the Dominican Republic (28 April 1965 to 1 September 1966), Korea on the DMZ (after 4 January 1969), Grenada (23 October to 21 November 1983) Panama (20 December 1989 to 31 January 1990), and the Persian Gulf War (17 January to 11 April 1991) is recognized by one award only regardless of whether a soldier has served one or multiple tours in any or all of these areas. If a soldier has been awarded the CIB for service in any of the Vietnam era areas, that soldier is not eligible to earn the Combat Medical Badge." LINK jDave
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ODA CDR	Re: Medals & Badges...	#33	[url]	[-]
Posts: 311 Sep 7 06 11:17 AM	JDave, I also have a star on my CIB. Afghanistan started a new era of CIB, I remember when the USASOC General flew to Afghanistan with them to pin us, big surprise for us. Until then we were still being awarded Vietnam era CIBs i.e Grenada, Panama, DS. Whatever reg you pulled up is old. We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. -George Orwell- nous defions
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Kontum68	Re: Medals & Badges...	#34	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2313 Sep 7 06 12:22 PM GO DAWGS!	Combat Infantry Badge_ Read Section IV www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/badges/combat%20infantryman%20badges.htm In addition: Read section E revised 2006. a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jul20061500/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2006/julqtr/32cfr578.69.htm Kontum68
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jdave	Re: Medals & Badges...	#35	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6596 Sep 7 06 12:28 PM	The current reg is dated 2/25/1995 LINK The changes effective 9/11/2001 were announced 6/3/2005 LINK The change posted by Kontum68, above, settles that issue. Thank you. Seems reasonable, there shouldn't be, IMHO, a star for every little fire-fight that occured between the end of Vietnam and the "GWOT". Whatever. The point being made to Testvet is that he was a Vietnam and Gulf War 1 vet, thus not authorized a star on his CIB. jDave
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rockygb	Re: Medals & Badges...	#36	[url]	[-]
Posts: 416 Sep 16 06 8:54 AM	As an holder of the CIB from Nam i was really put back when I saw the EIB the first time .I wouldn't mind that if it was designed different . I feel it was designed to to be be a wannabee for a CIB. That would be like giving a medal to someone for injuries away from a combat zone purple in color and shaped like a heart and putting Jefferson or someone on it.Like I said it should of been made different in shape and color.
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Kontum68	Re: Medals & Badges...	#37	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2313 Sep 16 06 10:26 AM GO DAWGS!	Yeah, designed and shaped like a sharp pencil! Kontum68
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