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Posts: 2654 07/21/08 14:53:25 |
Rickz245 wrote: i strongly agree with this !!! |
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Posts: 190 07/21/08 16:21:27 |
Rickz245 wrote:
I think you can tell how much of a patriot Obama is...and just what kind of support Obama is going to give Veterans by his lack of interest and pandering to Veteran's as a whole. We don't mean much to him politically...in fact in light of his beliefs and lack of military experience we are probably an embarrasing reminder to him that he would rather forget and probably will if and when he is elected.And I totally disagree with this. |
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Posts: 897 07/21/08 16:38:49 |
I strongly agree with what he said before.
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Posts: 6284 07/21/08 16:44:42
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painted,
There is not and never has been any LOS requirement beyond first tour for any educational benefits. 20 year retirees don't get squat except their check, free travel on AMC, and Tricare. Maybe your hero should consider increasing the benefits for retirees as an incentive to make it a career. McCain's been riding on and getting a free ride from his POW status since he got out of Hanoi. It's about time someone took a good look at him and see what he's actually done and stands for. Everything I've seen when I look at him tells me he changes direction as often as a weather vane, all depending on what his handlers tell him to do. |
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Stillhere |
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Posts: 898 07/21/08 17:05:30 |
Are we just a tad bitter today Brian. John McCain has not done anything any other good American veteran would not have done by taking advantage of the GI bill
when he got back. And now serving his country in a proud way. There are a number of veterans in the congress and yes one as our current president who not only
served in the military but went on to take advantage of the GI bill. They may all not agree with the veterans comes first before their constitutes but I
believe they all are thankful for who and what we have done for our great country.
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Posts: 1219 07/21/08 17:08:52 |
Face it folks....Junior doesn't have a friggin' clue.........no matter what the issue
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Posts: 6286 07/21/08 17:20:32
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Stillhere wrote: You missed my point entirely. McCain didn't need the GI Bill, he had his degree. Annapolis I believe. But he's been riding the "I was a POW" thing since he got home. He voted against the new GI Bill. The new GI Bill simply restores the WWII, Korean, and Nam era GI Bill. What has McCain done FOR Veterans beside give us lip service? What Veteran's bills has he sponsored in his 26+ years of soaking up the taxpayer's
$$?
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Posts: 1113 07/21/08 17:30:42 |
brianwl wrote: McCain's been riding on and getting a free ride from his POW status since he got out of Hanoi. he's been riding the "I was a POW" thing I take it you never were one or have known any Why are you so bitter at McCain because he was a POW ? I have never heard McCain "brag" about being a POW. Other honorable people have been the ones who have done this for him, because they admire someone who could go through what he and the other POW's did and still be able to make a life for themselves. |
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Posts: 6289 07/21/08 17:44:06
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I take it you never were one or have known anyWrong. Had a very good friend who was F-4 back-seater during Nam and got to spend time in the hotel. He was a C-130 pilot when I was an FE. Guy never made it past O3. Why are you so bitter at McCain because he was a POW ?Not bitter at all, just tired of hearing about it from him. Listen closer to his speeches. Look for his "my friends, when I was a prisoner", other such related comments.
I commend the guy for what he went through. But it's 2008 and we need to know what he's going to do in 2009 and beyond, other than what Bush has done for the past 8 years. |
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Posts: 899 07/21/08 17:57:27 |
Brian,
I am losing track of what this particular thread is about but I would like to take a crack at the comment "other than what Bush has done the past 8 years!" I believe we are in great shape as a nation to finally say we are winning in Iraq and can start looking at a time line to bring the troops home because of Bush! You see the reason I say that is because all of you BLAME BUSH for every thing but when it comes to good things you are missing in action. Also we hopefully will be drilling offshore here pretty soon because of BUSH not your congress. John McCain will with his wisdom and knowledge of how to lead see this nation through to a great recovery after he is elected. As I mentioned once before even if obama gets in the congress whether it be demo or repub will eat him alive. We are going to need someone in there who can work with a partisan congress and keep the nation moving in a positive position. Bush had the decked stacked against him because of the lackadaisical administration of Clinton and we all know what he was doing instead of taking care of business. |
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Posts: 2427 07/21/08 18:28:40 |
Bush had the decked stacked against himwhat a crock! Bush had everything handed to him with the Republican controlled Congress. Still, he was such a poor leader he still couldn't keep our economy out of the toilet. |
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mr G777 |
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Posts: 2656 07/21/08 18:44:37 |
here's something i picked up concerning mc ains efforts on
behalf of vets and retired military !!!
Caring for Our Disabled Veterans John McCain has been a leading advocate in the Senate for disabled veterans throughout his entire career. He fought for nearly fifteen years, introducing numerous bills, to ensure that veterans with service-connected disabilities can receive the retirement benefits that they have earned, as well as the disability compensation benefits that they are entitled to. He has also worked to ensure that veterans can have their disability claims processed in a timely manner, working with the VA to rectify its huge backlog of claims and providing additional resources for that purpose. John McCain believes very strongly that service members who suffered permanent injuries in service to our nation should not be forced to give up their disability compensation in order to collect their retirement pay. For this reason, John McCain has been a staunch supporter of repealing the historic ban on receiving both disability and retirement pay at the same time. Over the past few years, John McCain has successfully pushed for provisions to compensate disabled retired veterans for this disparity. Now, because of his efforts, veterans with severe combat-related disabilities are able to collect their retirement and disability compensation at the same time. John McCain will continue to fight for equal treatment of disabled veterans under the retirement system. In an effort to help disabled veterans with their health care, he cosponsored a measure to allow disabled veterans to be enrolled in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, the same health insurance offered to Senators and Congressmen. He has also supported higher payments to disabled veterans and survivors of veterans who died because of service connected injuries. John McCain has worked to increase VA resources for paralysis research, and he spearheaded an effort to establish a Blind Rehabilitation Center in Tucson, Arizona to help the 1,200 vets on waiting lists for rehab services for the blind. A Leading Advocate for Gulf War Veterans John McCain has always been a leader on veteran's issues, and Congress has often looked to him, particularly during times of conflict and war. On January 31, 1991, Senator Bob Dole appointed John McCain Co-Chairman of a task force to make recommendations to the Senate regarding effective policies to help the men and women and their families who served in Operations Desert Shield/Storm. John McCain worked with his colleagues to identify the most beneficial proposals, including doubling veteran and service member life insurance benefits, the establishment of a death gratuity payment for Persian Gulf service members, housing loan benefits for Gulf War veterans, expanded reemployment rights, and providing readjustment counseling for veterans. Easing the Transition to Civilian Life John McCain believes that we must do what we can to smooth the transition for veterans from military to civilian life. He has strongly supported educational and job counseling programs to help veterans get civilian employment. He has worked to provide new educational assistance for reservists. He also fought to extend the availability of G.I. bill education benefits for Vietnam veterans, and to expand flight training benefits to more veterans. In addition, John McCain is a strong supporter of the Troops-To-Teachers Act, a program to train veterans to become teachers, and introduced legislation to extend the program. John McCain also believes that we must provide more assistance to veterans who are recently discharged and has worked to extend unemployment and vocational training benefits for veterans. John McCain has also been a strong advocate for those veterans most in need. He has supported numerous bills to help homeless veterans by providing them with counseling, independent living training, and residential treatment programs so that they can address and overcome those ailments that plague many homeless veterans, such as post-traumatic stress disorder and substance abuse. Protecting Veterans from Financial Loss John McCain has also worked for a number of other financial protection and relief provisions for service members and veterans. He supported amendments to the bankruptcy reform bill that would protect veterans from being denied bankruptcy claims if they incurred their debts while defending our country. He also sponsored legislation to extend the tax filing deadline for Gulf War service members. In addition, he pushed for legislation to protect veterans from scam artists and loan sharks who would prey on low income veterans by offering them a small amount of "fast cash" to sign over their veteran's benefits. Protecting for the Families of Our Fallen Heroes John McCain believes that in addition to our national duty to provide benefits to veterans who return from combat, we must honor those who do not return and provide for their families with a death gratuity benefit and meaningful life insurance coverage. During the last two major military conflicts, John McCain worked to increase death gratuity payments. He cosponsored legislation to double the death gratuity payment in 2003 for service men and women who are killed in the War on Terror. He also sponsored legislation during the first Gulf War to increase the death gratuity payment, and to double the soldier and veterans' group life insurance. In 2007, after learning about problems that the families of some service members killed in combat were having accessing the death gratuity payment, John McCain introduced legislation to allow service members to designate who they want their benefits to go to in the event of their death. John McCain has also worked to increase the survivor benefit plan for widows or widowers of retired veterans. Honoring the Service and Sacrifice of Our Past and Present Veterans John McCain has worked throughout his time in Congress to fulfill our nation's solemn duty to honor those veterans who sacrificed their lives to protect our liberty. In 2006, he sponsored legislation to immortalize the Mt. Soledad Veterans Memorial as a symbol honoring veterans of the Korean War. He also advocated for the creation of a number of other veterans' memorials, including a memorial to honor disabled veterans and the National Native American Veterans' Memorial. He sponsored legislation to create National Medal of Honor Sites to honor recipients of the Medal of Honor. He worked to create Arizona's only National Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix, and he authored legislation to ensure that veterans have honor guards at their funerals. |
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Posts: 1755 07/21/08 18:51:31 |
stan, Bush may be a poor leader but he didn't have everything handed to him. While I am very dissatisfied with him, I will say that he did inherit a number
of issues that, subject to intrepretation, could be defined as "a stacked deck." Janet Reno's FBI and the CIA were not managed well, did not work
together, and spent a lot of time on non-Security isses. I believe that was documented in one of the9/11 reports.
He did not address terrorism in any serious manner, let along OBL. He depleted the strategic reserve to keep gas prices down, he straddled the economy with the biggest tax increase in history that prolonged the '92-'93 recission thru 95. He used SS funds to say he balanced the budget, our Military was demoralized under him, and his Admin's legacy regarding economy is greatly inflated by the benefits of the internet explosion and the Y2K scare and monies spent by so many companies and the gov't on that. Those are a few examples and yes, Bush has his own mistakes also, but were it not for his handling of post 9-11, our economy would have been exacerbated by such a major attack on our soil. Again, I am not happy with Bush either but WJC was one "slick operator." |
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Posts: 7264 07/21/08 18:54:30 |
Where is the link, and when did posting entire articles being allowed on this site?
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Posts: 4223 07/21/08 21:00:58
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Methinks Mr G is pasting directly from a McCain advertisement. Howzabout it? Source?
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herdgrunt |
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Posts: 1756 07/21/08 21:10:29 |
Maybe he don't know how to post a link, I don't! Maybe some of our brothers can explain how to do this.
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mr G777 |
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Posts: 2657 07/21/08 21:12:51 |
jdave wrote:
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mr G777 |
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Posts: 2658 07/21/08 21:17:31 |
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mr G777 |
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Posts: 2659 07/21/08 21:20:04 |
2581blue wrote: entire, no !!! half ,YES !!! |
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